IRC 2005-11-10

20:34 madair: hi
20:34 CameronShorter: hi
20:34 CameronShorter: hi
20:34 CameronShorter: You know if Patrice is coming?
20:34 madair: no idea
20:35 CameronShorter: Do you have his phone number (and are you in a position where you can call him from work)?
20:36 madair: no I don't have his phone number. I could call if I had that
20:39 CameronShorter: ok, I think it might just be the 2 of us today.
20:39 CameronShorter: shall we start?
20:39 madair: sure
20:39 CameronShorter: Agenda:
20:40 CameronShorter: Are we ready for a release
20:40 CameronShorter: 0. Bug list
20:40 CameronShorter: 2. When will we release 1.0?
20:40 CameronShorter: anything else?
20:41 madair: sounds good, let go through the bug list first though
20:41 CameronShorter: ok, seems like Steven has been busy working through this.
20:41 madair: Stevens amail had a good summery
20:42 madair: one by one:
20:42 madair: 1334496 Old layers visable in wrong scale while zooming
20:42 madair: can we close that now?
20:42 CameronShorter: I haven't testing the head version for a week now.
20:43 CameronShorter: Sounds like it is fixed from Steven's comments.
20:43 CameronShorter: Your call.
20:43 madair: I think it's fixed
20:43 CameronShorter: ok, you want to close it?
20:43 madair: will do
20:44 CameronShorter: (I'm still logging into SF)
20:44 madair: next: 1337858 CSS error in Firefox 1.5beta causes layers not to
20:44 madair: do we bother with this?
20:44 CameronShorter: Yes.
20:45 CameronShorter: If it is a problem in firefox 1.5 then we have a major problem.
20:45 madair: ok
20:46 CameronShorter: I'll try to get around to testing it against firefox rc1 soon.
20:46 madair: next: memory leak
20:47 madair: I think it's fixed, but testing by other people would be better to make sure
20:47 CameronShorter: Steven thinks it is fixed too.
20:48 CameronShorter: I'd say close it and see if the problem re-occurs in mapbuilder-lib-1.0-rc1 ?
20:48 CameronShorter: Ie, get our uses to test.
20:48 madair: ok will do
20:49 CameronShorter: By the way, it is excellent that we have fixed this.
20:49 madair: next: error initializing in Drupal
20:49 madair: I agree with that
20:50 CameronShorter: Leave it open, and we can release rc1 with the problem still open. Steven thinks we might be able to fix before 1.0
20:50 madair: I think we should give Steven more time on the Drupal one, it came from his shop
20:51 CameronShorter: Yes, ok.
20:51 madair: next: GmlRender complexity out of control
20:52 madair: I'm not sure we can do anything about this one now
20:52 CameronShorter: I don't think we want to fix this.
20:52 madair: it seems the solution would be to render on visible pixels
20:53 madair: only visible pixels
20:53 CameronShorter: Reason: It would require cropping algorithms on the client.
20:54 CameronShorter: Actuaully, I guess it could be addressed in WZ-graphics somewhere.
20:54 madair: let's leave that one open in the release
20:55 CameronShorter: Let's leave the bug open, but lower the priority to 3.
20:55 madair: ok
20:55 CameronShorter: done
20:55 madair: next: getFeatureInfo output not removed
20:55 madair: I'm working on this one now, should have a fix tomorrow
20:56 CameronShorter: ok
20:56 CameronShorter: It would be good to have this fixed for the RC.
20:56 madair: I'm trying to manage template models better, probably provide a deleteTemplateModels method, which would also remove theri output
20:57 CameronShorter: Sounds complicated?
20:57 madair: not too bad
20:57 CameronShorter: I scared of introducing too much complexity just before a release.
20:57 CameronShorter: I'll let you make the call.
20:57 madair: I'll make sure it doesn't mess anything else up
20:58 CameronShorter: ok
20:58 madair: next XHTML compatibility
20:58 madair: I would love to get this fixed, but it's not straight forward
20:59 CameronShorter: Yes. If I understand the problem we would require some major rework to the way we process rendering.
20:59 CameronShorter: I think we have to leave this open.
20:59 madair: agreed. Hopefully dojo will fix this
21:00 madair: next: GeoRSS divs not cleared
21:00 madair: I'm not sure I follow this one, it may even be fixed
21:01 CameronShorter: Do you know who raised the bug?
21:01 madair: no
21:02 madair: looks like a discussion between Sean and Pat
21:03 CameronShorter: Ok, I'll ask Pat to have a look and see if it has been fixed.
21:03 madair: ok
21:03 madair: next: Null gml coordinate
21:03 CameronShorter: Still open.
21:03 CameronShorter: I have not looked into it yet.
21:03 madair: do you want to fix this one?
21:04 CameronShorter: Yes.
21:05 madair: next: refine control of widget painting
21:05 madair: I think I can close this one now. I was leaving it open for the getFeatureInfo problem, but there is a bug raised for that already
21:05 CameronShorter: ok
21:06 madair: next: mouseup outside map
21:07 madair: I don't want to mess with this one at this point
21:07 madair: should be fixed though at some point
21:07 CameronShorter: agreed.
21:07 madair: next: use scalehints in context
21:08 madair: I would go with an RC with this open. I might get time to fix it for 1.0
21:09 CameronShorter: ok
21:09 madair: next gml point opacity
21:09 madair: I think this may be related to the change in gml:LinearRing processing
21:10 madair: they are now rendered as filled polygons.
21:10 CameronShorter: back in 2 tics
21:18 CameronShorter: back - sorry family stuff.
21:19 madair: understood!!
21:20 CameronShorter: Do you understand the point opacity issue?
21:20 CameronShorter: I don't think this is a bug. Maybe a feature request.
21:20 madair: not really. Someone changed the way linearRing is rendered to filled polygons
21:21 madair: I'm not sure if this is the same issue though
21:21 CameronShorter: I'll ask Michael what he suggests we do with this bug.
21:21 madair: we should be able to specify filled or not in config
21:21 madair: ok
21:22 madair: next: zoomby factor
21:22 madair: Linda is working on this one
21:22 madair: we can RC with this open
21:22 CameronShorter: yes
21:22 madair: next mapbuilder/index links
21:23 madair: does codehaus allow JSP apps?
21:23 madair: we could move that tutorial onto codehaus if so
21:23 CameronShorter: Not sure.
21:24 CameronShorter: Ideally, I'd like to move the tutorial into a standard apache URL.
21:24 CameronShorter: Do you think that is an option?
21:24 madair: it's a JSP to include a common header/footer/sidebar
21:24 CameronShorter: The other option would be to move the text into Codehaus so that the text can be maintained by the user community.
21:25 CameronShorter: Would you mind if we removed the header/footer/sidebar?
21:25 madair: let me look into options
21:25 CameronShorter: Because I think a lot of people are not reading the tutorial because it is hard to get to it.
21:25 CameronShorter: ok
21:26 CameronShorter: we can release with this bug open.
21:26 madair: ok
21:27 madair: next: space char inside tuple
21:28 CameronShorter: Hard to fix, and has little impact.
21:28 CameronShorter: Leave it open.
21:28 madair: ok
21:28 madair: next: query icon
21:28 madair: should be an easy fix
21:29 CameronShorter: Maybe Linda would like to look at it.
21:29 madair: I would prefer a better way to select the query layer though
21:29 madair: maybe query all layers by default?
21:29 CameronShorter: Yes, we do need to look into this.
21:29 madair: more of a usability issue
21:30 CameronShorter: I need to leave and get ready for work.
21:30 madair: let's leave it, if Linda can fix then fine
21:30 madair: ok
21:30 CameronShorter: Lets make a decision about releases.
21:30 madair: last 2 are ok
21:30 CameronShorter: We noted a few bugs that we should fix before a release candidate.
21:31 CameronShorter: I'd suggest we don't release this week, but re-assess the situation in the next meeting.
21:31 CameronShorter: (Probably put out a RC next week)
21:31 madair: how about one more week?
21:31 madair: sounds good
21:31 CameronShorter: yes
21:31 CameronShorter: Summary:
21:31 CameronShorter: 1. Discussed and closed bugs.
21:32 CameronShorter: 2. No release this week. Still a couple of bugs we want to fix first.
21:32 CameronShorter: 3. Aim for a release candidate next week. To be decided in next weeks meeting.
21:33 CameronShorter: 4. Next meeting is same time and place next week.
21:33 CameronShorter: Anything else?
21:33 madair: no that's it
21:33 CameronShorter: ok, thanks for the meeting. see you on email.
21:33 madair: ok thanks. It was good to go through all those bugs
21:34 madair: bye