CameronShorter Ok, let's start.
CameronShorter I don't have much to talk about without Pat and Mike here.
linda me either
CameronShorter Is there anything you Mat, Linda want to bring up?
mattdiez I'm good over here, just awaiting marching orders.
linda I haven't have much free time lately
linda just seeing if there is something small I could help out on
CameronShorter Linda and Mike, I'm putting together a credit's page in the docs and was wondering whether we should include you in the "developer" section or the "admin, docs" section
CameronShorter Mike, I'd assume you should go in the developer section since you have updated code in the past.
mattdiez I think you mean Matt?
linda I haven't done much lately but developer
CameronShorter yes, sorry mat
CameronShorter ok
mattdiez I'm just fine with Admin. I don't want to be confused with Pat or Mike or anybody who does the heavy lifting 
linda pat is coming
CameronShorter There are 15 or so developers, many who only have minor contributions.
linda i'm in the minor
CameronShorter Pat, Mike, Steven stand out because they are PMC members too.
linda yes
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Cappelaere sorry I am late
CameronShorter that's fine. If you know you are going to be late it helps if you email in advance so we can decide whether to wait for you or not.
CameronShorter Pat, the floor is yours.
Cappelaere I did not know I was going to be late or I would hav eemailed you
CameronShorter ok, it happens.
CameronShorter np
Cappelaere what do you want me to say?
CameronShorter Pat, do you have any issues to discuss? Eg 1.1?
Cappelaere nope
Cappelaere I need to work on testing...
CameronShorter ok, that would be good.
CameronShorter I think we should add testing to the Parking Lot.
CameronShorter I also think we need to start organising the parking lot a bit because it is starting to get big and will probably get bigger.
Cappelaere agree
CameronShorter Organise it into major and minor categories.
Cappelaere we neeed to make sure that we advertise the upcoming features in advance...
CameronShorter We can assign features to a release in JIRA.
Cappelaere I think Geoserver does that
CameronShorter Maybe we should be using JIRA instead of a Parking lot to manage future features?
Cappelaere that woul dbe even better
CameronShorter Linda, were you looking for something to do?
linda if we needed something for the release
CameronShorter Cleaning up docs is something I'd like to do for 1.0 - which includes getting the Parking Lot in order.
CameronShorter Would you like to set up the Parking Lot issues into JIRA?
linda sure
CameronShorter Set them as Feature Requests instead of Bugs.
CameronShorter I think you can also set up sub issues within JIRA, so you would have an issue Google Support, with Subtasks: Google Controls, and Google Map Layer.
CameronShorter I had a Skype call with Peter Miller recently, and he wants me to put together a "Business Plan" type of doc for Mapbuilder.
CameronShorter Only focussed on the Open Source concept rather than on financials.
Cappelaere what do you have in mind?
CameronShorter The doc needs to identify the vision for Mapbuilder, opportunities, threats, actions, and key areas where we funding would help, and what a sponsor would get if they funded us.
CameronShorter His aim is to use the doc to chase sponsor to pay for Core Mapbuilder work - like Project Management.
CameronShorter And possibly docs.
Cappelaere My intuition tells me that this would be an extremely long shot
Cappelaere I could be wrong
CameronShorter Maybe.
CameronShorter But I think the doc would be useful for developers - particularly new developers and users as they come on board too.
CameronShorter (The vision part)
Cappelaere no question about it
CameronShorter I'm hoping this document will be a collaborative effort too. I'll put up an initial staw man, then we can all trash out the ideas.
CameronShorter Pat, can you please look at http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAP/Project+planning and update the Vesion 1.1 list of features that we plan to add.
Cappelaere k
CameronShorter I think you have the best idea about what will be in 1.1
CameronShorter Pat, do you have anything you want to say about 1.1?
Cappelaere not really
Cappelaere I am almost done. Just a minor annoyance with a mouseover
Cappelaere and I would really like to get the develper's map going
Cappelaere we need to entice people to send their pics
Cappelaere may be this should be a requirement to get free support from us
CameronShorter Almost done with 1.1, or the GeoRSS demo?
Cappelaere both
Cappelaere georss demo has been cleaned up (almost)
CameronShorter You have added Google Maps?
Cappelaere popups are in
Cappelaere SLD is in
Cappelaere vector graphics is in
Cappelaere you can do more work on it... but...
Cappelaere will be in 1.2 if there is interest.
Cappelaere woul dbe nice to consolidate some functionality
CameronShorter ok
Cappelaere I do not like to see multiple copies of same widgets
CameronShorter You have enough functionality to justify a new build.
Cappelaere ?
CameronShorter I mean you don't need Google Maps in 1.1 to justify adding it.
Cappelaere not right now
Cappelaere there might be a problem with the license for us to use
CameronShorter However, I have done quite a bit on Google Maps so it shouldn't take much to add it if need be.
Cappelaere license is fairly restrictive
Cappelaere which is good for us
CameronShorter I don't see a licence problem with using the google maps code.
CameronShorter Where do you see problems?
Cappelaere with what?
Cappelaere the license>
Cappelaere ?
CameronShorter yes
Cappelaere has to be made freely availaible to all users
Cappelaere and has some government restructions that I cannot even understand
Cappelaere so it is technically not useable on a restricted site
Cappelaere from what I understand
CameronShorter I suggest we don't include the Google Maps code in our distribution, only a link to the Google Maps <script>
Cappelaere you need a key anyway
CameronShorter yes.
Cappelaere so it coul dnot work off the distribution
Cappelaere even if you wanted to
CameronShorter There would need to be a HOWTO explaining to a user how to get a Google key.
Cappelaere true
CameronShorter You are right about the restricted LAN too. Google Maps will be useless there.
CameronShorter Does your sponsor require Mapbuilder to run on a restricted LAN only, or do they have a use for Google Maps outside the restricted network?
Cappelaere Both
CameronShorter ok
Cappelaere they have a site on the open network with password protection
Cappelaere so it is very restricted reagrdless
CameronShorter ok
CameronShorter Patrice, are you planning to be working on testing up until the 1.1 release?
Cappelaere kinda
Cappelaere have other things going on too...
CameronShorter ok
CameronShorter I'm done, does anyone else have something to raise?
mattdiez Sure, what's the ETA on MAP-68?
mattdiez (or is that tied to Pat's code?)
CameronShorter I think Mike was looking into this
mattdiez Thought so...
CameronShorter I suspect Mike will need another week before 1.0 is ready.
CameronShorter Which might make Matt's release schedule slide, and make 1.1 release slide too.
mattdiez I'll email Mike.
mattdiez Make sure we're all on the same page w/r/t to the release...
mattdiez But, i must run (meeting in 3 minutes)
CameronShorter Pat, Linda, Matt - if you are looking around for something to do, helping fix 1.0 bugs or helping with the docs would be very useful.
CameronShorter Ok, next meeting, same time, next week?
mattdiez sure.
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linda k
CameronShorter I'm focusing on docs - but if someone else can do that, I can move over to debugging.
CameronShorter Anything else?
linda nope
Cappelaere nope
CameronShorter ok, thanks guys.
linda cya
Cappelaere thanks
CameronShorter Linda, what is your timeframe for moving data to JIRA?
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linda so we are talking about getting the rest of the items from SF into JIRA?
linda or from the wiki?
CameronShorter from the wiki
* linda looking for the page
CameronShorter It is possible there are some feature requests on SF which should be moved across. I'd suggest use it as guidance. Your call as to whether they should be moved across.
linda i'm being blind
linda I don't see the page now
linda I thought we had a page called parking lot
CameronShorter Search in google for "Mapbuilder Parking Lot"
CameronShorter It has a cryptic URL
linda 
linda got to love it
linda sure I can get these in on Sunday
linda not much
CameronShorter great. No major rush here. I have a few more ideas I'll start adding to JIRA too.
linda k
linda cya then
CameronShorter thanks and bye
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